The Gleaner reported on Sunday, June 2, 2013 that Minister of Investment and Commerce Anthony Hylton was being sued for approx $12m , which has been outstanding for 6yrs, to a Kingston based businessman
It appears (based on the dates involved) , that the Norbrook property was bought by Mr Hylton just before the 2007 election loss by the PNP and Mr Hylton has been having great difficulty making payments, during the entire time that his party was in opposition.
The newspaper report also noted that Mr Hylton wants an out of court settlement and has given some assurance that Mr Seaga will be paid shortly( next week according to the Gleaner report)
Now maybe I am being cynical once again, but for 5 yrs all while in opposition the bill remains unpaid but with just over a year in Government, Mr Hylton is now giving real assurance that the payments will be made in short order ( next week to be exact)
Coincidence ?
Well I am not sure, but I think this is one for the Parliamentary Integrity Commission .
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Calling out Test and the rest of the band
Is this an attack on this Minister ?
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I have to be careful I cannot talk about PNP Member 😦
Calling out Test
Keeping calling me out…I might have to call on my Friend, Ivor Davis, to address you properly! 🙂
No Jay, not an attack on the Minister. All this does is show that Politicians are not as corrupt as most people believe. Very few of them derive any benefits from their political assignments and most struggle financially during/after their time as a Cabinet minister and/or MP. Some might argue that a large number of them are negatively impacted during the tour of duty as a Cabinet Minister/MP, as they but their business interests on hold or the businesses suffers due to the demands of the political duties. A price to pay for public service…some say yes….
My take is now that the “Seaga problem” is now in the public domain, Anthony Hylton is embarrassed and he will do whatever it takes to put this embarrassing situation behind him. I’m not surprised by you imputing motives that he will seek to use his position as Minister of Commerce to steal from the public purse in order to satisfy these debts. Why wasn’t there a similar call to have Daryl Vaz investigated by the ” Parliamentary Integrity Commission” when it was revealed that he owed in excess of JA$50 Million in GCT taxes (and penalties) that was collected and not turned over to the GOJ? It was reported in some quarters that he was able to eked out a pretty good sweetheart deal with the TAJ with the re-payment plan. The same individual was able to buy a FINSAC property at below market rate, although there were other bids that were higher than his. I will ignore the issue with the brother of this same individual for the back taxes owed since 1995 and the incident with the TAJ Employee. Again, no call from Jay for an investigation.
No call from the self-righteous Jay when Audley Shaw was bouncing checks left right and center (even writing more bad checks to vendors to cover previously bounced ones) when he owned that Gas Station in Manchester that was eventually seized by Cool Petroleum. The same Gas Station where about 1 acre of Government-owned Land was surreptitiously incorporated into the Gas Station Parcel without any payment made to the GOJ. And what about the sweetheart deal that Shaw got from FINSAC, which saw him paying pennies on the dollar to settle his outstanding FINSAC debt. Investigation?….Noooooooo, that is only reserve for “special” PnPites…. 😀
True to form strong defence of the embattled pnp cabinet minister, while directing attention to other and suggesting ” well a nuh Im a alone, other dweet it too, weh u nuh chat bout dat too”.
This is how Jamaicans view issues, not as principle , right or wrong, but on the basis of how this or that issue stack up against another one of similar nature.
Point out an issue here and you find someone trying to justify it by pointing to ” those over there “.
The fact that Anthony owe for the full period the PnP was in opposition in no way suggest that “some politicians are not corrupt as we think” . In fact it may suggest the complete opposite given that the debt will now be paid while he is in office :).
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As usual you completely miss the point. If you read my post, all I’m saying is that your pattern of request for resignations or investigations only when Comrades are involved and completely turn a blind eye when people from YOUR side are the transgressors. A subtle point of difference with your take, but something I would hope would not easily escape your discerning eyes.
Kudos to you though, since your ad hominem attacks have achieved, singly handedly, 10-times what the Opposition party has been able to achieve as a group over the pass 18-months. I think you should send in you Invoice for services rendered…..delivered…..objectives met!!!! hahahahaaaaa.
One think I admire about you is your blind and loyal support for a particular party, right or wrong !
Did you say you have invoiced them for your strident loyalty and support on this blog?
Share some a d money nuh, after-all I have provided that platform and points to allow you to express such rabid support for a failing institution!
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Lend me some money Test, I will pay you back in when the JLP is re-elected.
Your response would be hell no, the PNP will be in power for a long long time. 🙂
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I should hasten to add that you should feel free to call upon me anytime you wish my inputs to balance out your posts which seeks to malign and distort our great party and/or it Cabinet Ministers. I now truly understand why you are no longer a member of the PNP. Honesty and Integrity are not your strong suits…two distinct qualities of a true Comrade! I withdraw any previous call for you to rejoin the fold. 🙄
So I take it that you don’t agree that the PIC should investigate Anthony Hylton Financial affairs.
In countries that pride themselves on ensuring that probity exist and that no whiff of corruption is tolerated, its people tend to demand that certain standards must be adhered to and when they don’t then certain investigation is done and decisions taken as a result of those investigations.
I take it that you do not share that view and things should be allowed to be the way they have always been ” because a Jamaica this”.
I totally understand your position Test, trust me I really do.
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Don’t be silly. What would the basis for a PIC investigation? The issue at hand has to do with contractual disagreement between two individuals, one who so happens to be a Government Official. The aggrieved party has rightfully turned to the Courts (the correct venue I must add) to achieve some measure of redress. My understanding from prior statements you made, is that it is YOUR opinion that given that the matter was not settled during the Minister’s time in the opposition and his hint that he will most likely pay off his debts as early as in a week’s time, then he will only be able to do so by some “process of corruption” (i.e, stealing from, the public purse). WTF?
In fact, YOUR call for an investigation is so premature, since YOU are calling the for an investigation before the supposedly corrupt act even commence. Now, in all honesty, I’m not sure if you have secured the services of a talisman (I heard that St. Thomas, your home Parish, has the best practitioners) to predict actions before they happen. If that is the case, I fervently apologize for you having access to future events before they occur and labeling your call for an investigation, as impulsive/hasty. I’m not accustomed to nor do I believe in such practices, so I’m prone to the mistakes of a non-believer.
I will now borrow one of Ivor Davis’ line….Jay, U R stupid… to describe what I firmly believe is one of your rare departures from reality. :Grin:
Darn, this is like changing the power of the OCG so he will intervene after the corruption has taken place vs acting to avoid acts of corruption in the first place.
It seems backward thinking is prerequisite trait for being a comrade.
Test is a very good comrade.
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So you want to investigate a nonexistent crime or you want to bring in the PIC ahead of a corrupt act so as to prevent it from taking place? You sir, shouldn’t be talking about backwards thinking as a prerequisite for being a Comrade, since your whole (warped) premise for a investigation is putting the cart before the horse.
All joking aside, I’m a Colonel when it comes to being a partisan hack. You are a decorated-4-star General in that department, so I’m just starting on that journey, while you are about to retire with full pension. I’m a quick learner though, so I will get there just in time before you hang up your boots, at which time, I will take your statement above regarding me being a “good Comrade” as a well deserved compliment. In the meantime I will continue to take careful notes from the Jay, the General. I salute you Sir Jay.
Test its very simple man, too simple.
Every member is supposed to declare their assets and liabilities at a certain frequency as outlined by Section 4 , subsection 3b of the 1973 ACT ( UPDATED 2001).
The ACT says all filing should take place Dec 31st of each year.
Its not too hard therefore to look at the assets and liabilities of the Cabinet Minister for the last 6 yrs to determine if this liability was in fact declared and if assets exist to cover this and other liabilities.
Do you send in a auditor to check the books after a fraud has been committed in a organization or as a act of good governance you ensure its done on an annual basis?
You certainly could do one after the fact, but that is really like closing the gate after the horse has bolted, doesn’t it ?
I know this is how comrades operate and I am having Test show exactly how the average comrade thinks.
Thanks Test, you have passed the “comrade irrational thinking test”, with flying colours.
You got an A.
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I am not sure what became of this case Test, but it must be worth reading the following extract.
COULD BE DISQUALIFIED
Attorney-at-law Raymond Clough explained yesterday that if Robinson does not pay within the specified time and is taken to court and declared bankrupt, then she can no longer sit in Parliament.
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20121213/lead/lead34.html
After failing to pay US$120K for 6 yrs it would seem reasonable to suggest that Anthony Hylton is Bankrupt.
Well its for the Courts to decide, but knowing how the “system” works Comrades will ensure the Anthony avoids the courts at all “cost”.
Note that last word “cost”.
Jay, actually the whole real estate transaction sounds fishy to me. The simply question is: if he sold the property to Hylton without Hylton paying over the entire amount (Sale Price) at closing, why didn’t he Seaga setup the unpaid balance (JA$12 Million or US$120K) as a mortgage (lien) against the property. That way, if he fail to pay off the mortgage within a certain prescribe time period (let’s say 6-months), he Seaga could commence foreclosure action against Hylton and take back the property once a final judgement is obtained (from the courts).
Based on what I have read, a promissory note was generated between the two, but nothing said about any encumbrance against the property. The reports said that he lived in the property for 3+ years, but nothing is said about whether Hylton still owns the property or whether the property has sold. Seaga mentioned a “vendor’s mortgage”, so why not foreclosure and taken back possession and go after Hylton for any shortfall (deficiency judgement) for the six year period.
I think there is more to this real estate deal that both parties are not prepared to discuss publicly, since it might involve some level of fraud (eg, a Bank loan/mortgage that was predicated on Hylton coming up with X% of downpayment from his own funds). Jay, I know you have a vivid imagination/clairvoyant, could look into your crystal glass or access you mediums and tell me what I’m missing about this whole deal. 😀
Just remove the orange coloured lens you are wearing and you will begin to see clearly my brother
I am happy to see that you have finally come to recognize that I am looking through crystal glass(es) and not green coloured lens. (Crystal is very clear)
I am so happy you have come to that realization Test.
Checkmate 🙂
Jay, Test beat you bad, bad on this one. Come on, admit it nuh man. Not that I have a brief for Hylton. Am just saying that on the basis of the exchanges between the two of you on the subject, Test cleaned your clock!
Really?
I had a good laugh at that post Mich.
Test is my student and I am teaching him how to search for clues from information that is available, but I’m head hard bad, but he is getting there 🙂
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Test its very simple man, too simple.
So after multiple bites of the apple, you finally come up with a coherent theory as to why Hylton should be investigated? So the issue now is that he is bankrupt and his yearly declarations were fraudulent because based on his inability to pay off the US$120K debt is a sure sign that is liabilities (far) exceeds his assets…right? I see the whole issue of “liquidity” is a foreign concept to you. By your measuring stick, half of all adult Jamaicans are bankrupt, since from my limited experience, most Jamaicans are quick to borrow, but find it nearly impossible to repay their debts. I see….slippery when wet……eh? You have totally abandoned your original assertions about the ability to pay now that his party is now back in power. O.K, got it!
Do you send in a auditor to check the books after a fraud has been committed in a organization or as a act of good governance you ensure its done on an annual basis?
Good point/question! O.K, so you are suggesting that all MPs should be investigated, not just Hylton? I concur.
Test you are insulting even your own intelligence. Yes people do have liquidity or short term cash flow issues but my goodness, for 6 yrs.
I know you don’t believe even that as you wrote it, so quit nuh man.
I am just opening your eyes test so you can see and I think I am making some headway.
Keep reading.
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Anthony’s money problems is now a distraction .
Did Anthony Hylton make good on his promise to pay Mr Seaga back last week?
Gleaner can we get an update ?
I sure way to confirm that Seaga was paid and the debt extinguished is to verify that the legal action was terminated.
The more I think about the this embrassing case the more my mind goes back to the financial meltdown of the 1990s. Here we have a public official (minister of Commerce and an Attorney), with the appearance of success, yet he technically borrowed over $120K and has not paid a dime towards the debt for over six years. If Hylton was one of Jay’s student, I’m sure he would blame his inability to repay the loan on the implicit “High Interest Rate”, afterall, what other excuse could there be. 🙄
It is interesting that another person with the name Seaga, borrowed over JA$200 million from a failing bank at the time and proffered some lame excuse that he forgot about the existence of the loan and hence, his tardiness (lack of servicing the loan) in repaying on the loan. Note, he didn’t say he could not afford to repay or the interest rate was too high, he just plain forgot. Now, if Government Official/Ministers can pick and choose which loan to repay or when to engage their memory cells, what about the “common” man? We won’t go into Shaw’s and Blythe’s debt problems.
It is not surprising that a certified “Teacher” on this blog has religiously maintained that it was the “High Interest Rate” regime of the mid-nineteen-nineties that precipitated the financial meltdown. Of course, people whose “head hard bad” knows better, when the data is closely examined and the Hylton-Seaga saga just confirms that Jamaicans like to borrow people’s money and skip out on repaying the debt when it comes due. Something a lot of the so called FINSAC Debtors were very adept at.
Bwoy, Hylton must have been doing some serious hide and seek for past six years, not to mention the many tales he must have wove over that time period, to keep Seaga at bay. Hmmmm, I wonder if “Teacher” is a private consultant to Hylton or offering his skills of weaving tall tales to the Minister for a fee/free? 🙂
You are a silly and trivial person and you should leave the blog
O.K, mi gaan…… 😦
I’m back! Hey Lipton, I guess whenever someone belittle one of YOUR false gods (Seaga in this case), you lash out by resorting to calling other blogger’s name. I guess you have no available facts to refute my claims, so your only defense is to beg for me to leave the blog. What an asinine request….. I’m going nowhere. Margaret Thatcher will be next victim!
I try very much to be like you and but I failed miserably. You should stop cutting and pasting other people’s theories and come up with some original thoughts of your own for a change (that’s if you are capable). I suspect that you are suffering from the “shortman” syndrome. What is your height…My guess 5-ft-4-inches? It is evident from your sophomoric behavior, where you are desperately trying to overcompensate for your lack of height through irate and irrational behavior. In the future if you want to be considered a worthy opponent, don’t beg for me to leave the blog, but offer some opposing views that might lead others to perceive you an someone with some basic intellect. Right now, your inferiority complex is showing big time!
Test, I do not have an inferiority complex. However, unlike you I prefer to discuss policies and theories not people. Furthermore, as I said sometime ago I am well schooled in anti-seaga propaganda and nothing that you say can change my view, because it is typical superficial thinking. For example, the last time we had a discussion about garrison politics in Jamaica and I made reference to a number of empirical studies which implicated the pnp, you said nothing. In addition, Seaga and Margaret Thatcher are people with a legacy, even the great Carl Stone agrees, Michael Manley’s father Norman was great, but Michael was extremely misguided. He was not able to build a legacy on pragmatism, he choose idealogy instead. If you want to admire a great left wing leader study Deng Xiaoping, who was not afraid to support market led growth. Test, if you want to engage me in an intellectual debate, come with something better than Jamaican politics. It would be good if you read my article on Margaret Thatcher. Both parties are corrupt, the pnp is more corrupt than the jlp since it has more scandals but people like you will never believe this. Lastly, Seaga is very good at refuting people like you. Test, I put you and Jay in the same category because like you he is obsessed with sensationalism
Letter of the day
Thatcher had balls many men would envy
The praises which have been heaped on the late Margaret Thatcher are well deserved, however, her legacy is not without controversy. Even in death, Thatcher remains a divisive figure.
Her critics perceive her as a malevolent force which destroyed trade unions, the manufacturing sector and communities, while her admirers credit her with rescuing an ailing economy. Although the critics of Thatcher are many, her legacy speaks for itself.
In 1979, Thatcher inherited an economy which suffered from low levels of productivity, anaemic GDP growth and high inflation. Unlike many leaders, Thatcher was not afraid to spend political capital. She privatised inefficient state agencies and reduced industrial subsidies. She even challenged the powerful unions, which had a stranglehold on the economy, and Britain benefited significantly from her policies.
According to the Institute For Fiscal Studies, median incomes grew more rapidly during the Thatcher years when compared to the administrations of John Major and Tony Blair. In addition, when Thatcher became prime minister, the working class accounted for 67 per cent of the population. By the time she demitted office in 1990, this number was reduced to 51 per cent.
Furthermore, in 1980, unemployment was above two million; she reduced it to 1.85 million by 1990. There was also an increase in entrepreneurial activity. During her stewardship, the number of firms rose from 1.89 million in 1979 to 3.09 million in 1989. Further, the British economy lost 29.5 million workdays from strikes in 1979. By the end of her tenure, this was reduced to two million.
Increased output
Moreover, Thatcher did not destroy the manufacturing sector. According to the Office for National Statistics, British factories increased output by 7.5 per cent during her premiership. It must be noted that Labour Prime Minister Harold Wilson closed 400 mines during his tenure. This resulted in the loss of 315,000 jobs. Thatcher closed 146 mines.
It has also been propagated in the media that she called Nelson Mandela a “terrorist”. This is not true. She called the African National Congress, with which Mr Mandela was affiliated, a terrorist organisation in the aftermath of a controversial statement made by Winnie Mandela.
Margaret Thatcher will be remembered as a hero who rescued Britain from economic collapse and Eastern Europe from totalitarianism. The criticism from the Labour party is expected, because by advocating self-reliance, Thatcher destroyed its base.
Test, when will you begin to attack Morris Cargill, Perkins, Dawn Ritch, Thomas Sowell, Milton Friedman and Lee Kuan Yew. I can’t wait.
Thank you Dr Dick, for a moment I thought I was the only person who saw an issue with Mr Hylton financial situation.
Questions For Anthony Hylton
by Rev Devon Dick
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20130620/cleisure/cleisure2.html
Maybe you are being modest or cautious in your approach. Reading the article. I almost tempted to say he used the exchanged on YOUR blog as a basis for that article. Underestimating the “reach” of your Blog might be construed in some quarters, as being “selectively” measured in seeking praise. Is it that you want us to believe that Rev/Dr. Devon Dick independently and contemporaneously came to the same conclusion as you did (although you were unwittingly steered in that direction)? I will say what you really want to say………………you’ve been a source of inspiration to us all!
We have information that Anthony Hylton has once again missed another deadline set for payment of US$122K to Metry Seaga. Weeks ago Mr Hylton reported he would have made payment by end of the week ie June 7, 2013
Its now July 1 and Mr Hylton has still not yet paid the gentlemen the sum owing.
This a disgrace and we are calling for the courts to rule Anthony Hylton bankrupt, which would pay the way for his removal from office.
In Trinidad the do, but I guess its way too much to ask for in Jamaica.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Integrity-Commission-considering-probe-into-Warners-money-pit-218032531.html
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